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The Camp of the Saints

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The Camp of the Saints

Postby Recluse8747 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:29 pm

Okay, I think this will be a good test run along with the Francis articles (which will be put in another thread). We have the book available for download for anyone who wants to follow along:

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDFs/Camp_ ... Saints.pdf

I know many people on here have already read this novel and I welcome ther discussion but please avoid spoilers or at least mention them before hand (yes, I hate having the end of a novel ruined :lol: )
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Postby Recluse8747 on Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:55 am

Has anybody read anything yet?

I just started today. I'll probably finish up over the weekend and post some thoughts on Monday or Tuesday.
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Postby Recluse8747 on Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:00 pm

Very moving book; the portrayal of the Western world powerless to stop an invasion of Third World immigrants due to political correctness was prophetic. I don't know if I realized just how truly pathetic our situation is until reading this. If the West had the will to resist the invasion it could be easily stopped; but we have become slaves to some idealized image we hold of ourselves. Anyway, here are a few of my favorite lines and passages


20-ish white on the day of the landing:
“I’m looting, that’s why. I sponged off society while it was alive, so now that it’s dead, I’m going to pick its bones. It’s a change. I like it. Because everything’s dead. Except for the army, and you, and a few of my friends, there’s no one around for miles. So I’m looting, man. But don’t worry, I’m not hungry. I’ve already stuffed myself. And anyway, I don’t need much. Besides, everything’s mine now. And tomorrow I’m going to stand here and let them have it all. I’m like a king, man, and I’m going to give away my kingdom. Today’s Easter, right? Well, this is the last time your Christ’s going to rise. And it won’t do you any good this time, either, just like all the rest.”

A Soviet general:
“World conscience, illiterate prole! World conscience! Imagine how shocked it would be at a piece of news like this: ‘Drunk Russian army slaughters five million unarmed peasants, women and children …’ Anyway, if the French decide to shoot, that mob over there will take the hint and stay where they are. But frankly I don’t think the French can do it. They’ve always been the fair-haired boys of something or other—of the Church, of logic, of love, of revolution."

The South African President to the press:
"“As always, gentlemen, I know that you’ve come here as enemies. In a few moments our telephones and teletypes will be at your disposal to let you spout your usual loathing of us to the rest of the world. Just let me make one thing clear: the Republic of South Africa is a white nation with eighty percent blacks, and not—as the world would like to think of us, in the name of some mythical equality—a black nation with twenty percent whites. That’s the subtle difference. And it’s one that we insist on. It’s a question of background, of outlook. You’ll never understand … But let’s get to the point. At this very moment there’s a fleet of Third World invaders heading for the Cape, a hundred miles off our shores. Just off Durban, to be exact, according to last reports. Its only arms are weakness, misery, a faculty for inspiring pity, and its strength as a symbol in the eyes of the world. A symbol of revenge. What puzzles us Afrikaners is the masochistic way the white world seems bent on taking revenge against itself. … No, I take that back, we’re not puzzled at all. It’s only too clear. That’s why we reject this symbol out of hand, because that’s all it is: a symbol…”

"That’s something the Left has never understood, and that’s why its contempt is so heavy with hate. When it spits on the flag, or tries to piss out the eternal flame, when it hoots at the old farts loping by in their berets, or yells “Women’s Lib!” outside the church, at an old-fashioned wedding (to cite just some basic examples), it does so in such a grim, serious manner—like such “pompous assholes,” as the Left would put it, if only it could judge. The true Right is never so grim. That’s why the Left hates its guts, the way a hangman must hate the victim who laughs and jokes on his way to the gallows. The Left is a conflagration. It devours and consumes in deadly dull earnest. (Even its revels, appearances notwithstanding, are as grisly an affair as one of those puppet parades out of Peking or Nuremberg.)"

A French colonel:
"“Then there’s no more war. At least, not worthy of the name. Which is just what’s going to happen this morning, by the way. When my last hussar runs out on me, you’ll see. The country will be at peace. What kind of peace? I really can’t say. I don’t want to live through it, that much I know. Let the rest of them wallow in their peace! It’s what they’ve been yelling for all these years, without the slightest idea what it was! If you ask me, they’ll get what’s coming to them, that’s all. …"

"Now, it’s a known fact that racism comes in two forms: that practiced by whites—heinous and inexcusable, whatever its motives—and that practiced by blacks—quite justified, whatever its excesses, since it’s merely the expression of a righteous revenge, and it’s up to the whites to be patient and understanding."

"And I’m sitting here now, slowly repeating, over and over, these melancholy words of an old prince Bibesco, trying to drum them into my head: “The fall of Constantinople is a personal misfortune that happened to all of us only last week.” "
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Postby Anonymous on Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:55 pm

It seems good so far, but I've only had time up to now to read about 15 pages. But your review confirms my suspicion that it should be a good read.
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